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It's possible they're passing on this cost to customers, but it also wouldn't entirely surprise me if InMusic is using Denon DJ as a kind of marquee branding and absorbing some of this additional cost. I understand now what you mean, but the Denon DJ branding isn't going to last and their products aren't going to gain market share if they don't promote. Not cheap, though it's still advanced and feature-rich. Their top line mixer was also a particular exception on their MSRPs. I mean, all that fancy LED ring stuff on the SC2900 and you still couldn't have more than one USB drive shared over the network at once. They could be forced to charge more for all this promo stuff they're doing, but they often overly focused on features that were not core stuff that met minimum necessary feature sets. So they've met and exceeded prior Pioneer stuff and at a lower price point. Denon didn't have a proper carefree network link or quad core processor before. Maybe, but impossible to quantify on the outside and basically a moot point. Where they went with inovative features and high build quality to gain customers. When you compare it with Pioneer everything is better value for money, that's not what's questionable. What's the point of tearing down Pioneer from no.1 spot and then letting another money hungry company charge us for their overblown marketing?

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That price difference is what is paying the all the marketing, superstar DJ's, free units to festivals and the software support. Yet the SC5000 costs less than the NXS2.Ĭompare the price of SC2900 and SC5000. And InMusic is upping its sponsorship and promotions. The NXS2 and the new Denon players, for instance, aren't even in the same league. You're still getting way more for your money with even the InMusic/Denon stuff. Shit ton of promotion, sponsorships, and free gear to clubs (especially when the CDJ1000mk2 and DJM1000 came out). So what if they're paying for sponsorship and promotion? That's how Pioneer got to where they are now.

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Too bad older Denon mixers did not get updated drivers for Sierra support. Also, the newer Denon units and marketing has increased the interest in Denon products, even the older ones. A good condition pair of SC3900 you can get the same or higher % of original price that the equivalent Pioneer (no other moving platter single deck player in the market and not a replacement in sight from Denon). Money for that has to come sooner or later from pockets of consumers.ĭepends where you sell them. Pioneer units are not just expensive because of Pioneer tax but also because the price includes money paid for software support to Serato & NI.Īnyway to answer, they have started spending much more on marketing and their products are simplified compared to previous generations. Not to mention how much money from each unit will be paid to Serato for SDJ support and later probably the same to NI for Traktor support (if they become permanent in booths around the world). Not with new inMusic Denon, just look at how much money is being spent on superstar DJ to change their riders and overall marketing. What does that mean? You get a lot more for your money with old Denon and even new InMusic Taiwanese-built Denon than you ever do with Pioneer. Right now I suffer with Pioneer and less suffering with a mix of old Denon and super cheap & awesome Hanpin stuff. If they'd make it as customizable as DJ software in some respects (like hiding and turning shit off), I'd probably move over to the new Denon stuff. I also have a problem with some of Denon/InMusic's customer service and communication, but a separate issue from the value thing. I do think Pioneer got the minimum necessary features right earlier than Denon on the player front, and in spite of that I think that, overall, Denon users get more for their money.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference. SC5000 is the new Denon/InMusic model and used ones seem to go for just a couple hundred less than new, which is comparable to what previously-owned NXS2 line appears to go for. First CDJ2000 went for $2100 MSRP and fetches around a grand a unit. Discontinued SC3900 is very long in the tooth and still seems to go for about $400 a deck, and I think those cost like $700 new originally. A lot of Denon stuff costs less to begin with, though, and their older models are discontinued.

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Really? My Denon mixer would sell for exactly the price I paid for it NIB with skin saver and some other stuff. But resale value wise, the denons are a disaster.